| @Yause Yeah, this shit isn't quite like Chaos;Head, Fate/Stay Night, Umineko, or Danganronpa. I watched several episodes of Umineko and never cared for the cast, and nearly all of them came off as fun and likable in their introductions in the VN. I haven't gotten far through the story, and haven't extensively compared all these adaptations or anything, but yeah... It's whatever. Whenever people say that the Litlte Busters anime won't even be remembered as much as Angel Beats, it's a sad truth that I hate to have to face, but I should've expected it from the beginning. It's a good show, well above average, and sticks out among the shows this season as one of the better ones, probably, but I think that's as far as it'll ever become the sort of "classic" like Clannad or Angel Beats, where people can often wholeheartedly love and obsess over the shows and not even know about Key's VNs. I mean, almost every week on Reddit, or in every single "Most emotional anime" thread, Clannad and Angel Beats WILL get posted, they'll be part of the most upvoted posts, and they'll continue to attract new viewers. People bring it up on /a/ as well. Little Busters just doesn't stick out from the beginning because of its aesthetics and weak execution, and people won't live on to tell the tale of the light at the end of the tunnel that turned out to be a pretty successful Farewells episode. |
Ol-Hybrius said: A bit off topic, but since you talked a little about it : is the Chaos;Head VN actually better than the average anime ? I mean, the first half (if not less) was promising in my opinion, but the plot became kind of a mess afterward. I thought the source material was in cause with this one, but maybe I should really play it ? Never cared a whole lot for Chaos;Head, honestly. It feels like it tried to be an edgy horror psychological shonen action story. I couldn't ever really get engaged, and the harem characters that took themselves as serious or antagonizing didn't work as well for me as it did in Steins;Gate. I wasn't expecting or comparing it to Steins;Gate, but it's even weak compared to other VNs I've played. I mean, from anime->VN it goes from awful ->decent, not spectacular. |
| So, uh what do you VN readers think of the adaptation so far? |
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Nope_ said: So, uh what do you VN readers think of the adaptation so far? It's worse than I could've imagined. I didn't even imaging Masato's arc could've possibly been that badly executed in the anime, for example. Here's my copypaste from my profile. There's no spoilers past episode 12. Anyway, part of my mentality revolves around the fact that this show isn't consistently engaging for a number of production reasons. People like to put the blame on the episode count, but they didn't have issues making some episodes have DOUBLE the script size as other episodes. Surely, a few lines of text, some song changes, and putting back in a few important bits of content that would make the drama much more effective would've worked fine. |
Vladz0rDec 24, 2013 6:03 PM
Vladz0r said: Nope_ said: So, uh what do you VN readers think of the adaptation so far? It's worse than I could've imagined. I didn't even imaging Masato's arc could've possibly been that badly executed in the anime, for example. Here's my copypaste from my profile. There's no spoilers past episode 12. Anyway, part of my mentality revolves around the fact that this show isn't consistently engaging for a number of production reasons. People like to put the blame on the episode count, but they didn't have issues making some episodes have DOUBLE the script size as other episodes. Surely, a few lines of text, some song changes, and putting back in a few important bits of content that would make the drama much more effective would've worked fine. So basically it sucks as an adaptation? |
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| This anime being a bad adaptation takes away from the engaging essence of the story. It's a friendship story that takes itself seriously, and there are plenty of reasons why this anime doesn't allow for this to work well. It's not even about sticking 1:1 to the source material, as I've mentioned hundreds of times. It's that it's a cheap and weak transition to the medium, and the series is less engaging with animation than the VN was without it. It sucks as an adaptation, but it's also weak, or maybe I should say "average" so as not to totally offend all the hard work JC Staff has put into the show. It's weak in that this it's a show with a lot of drama and a lack of precise buildup for character attachment, and Little Busters is an ambitious story that ought to take its time in those areas before reaching this level of intensity. Little Busters sort of suffers from the same issues some "edgy" shows like people feel Elfen Lied and Danganronpa can suffer from. It's sort of like "Wow, that situation seems intense, but should I really care for all these characters?" "Is the emotional impact the show is aiming for even deserved? This is a problem in addition to the scenes' actual execution at times. {Those Rin crying scenes, I'm sorry but I laughed, and I'm not the only one. A friend of mine is a huge Rin fan, but he didn't even feel that this part was well done. (Not talking about you, Ken, if you happen to read this).} Sooooo yeah. Just beating a dead horse as always. |
Vladz0rDec 24, 2013 6:30 PM
Vladz0r said: This anime being a bad adaptation takes away from the engaging essence of the story. It's a friendship story that takes itself seriously, and there are plenty of reasons why this anime doesn't allow for this to work well. It's not even about sticking 1:1 to the source material, as I've mentioned hundreds of times. It's that it's a cheap and weak transition to the medium, and the series is less engaging with animation than the VN was without it. It sucks as an adaptation, but it's also weak, or maybe "average" as an anime that has this much drama and such an ambitious story as Little Busters. Judging from anime-only viewers reaction, the anime is pretty well above average. Maybe not as memorable as other animes but it is still good despite being bad as an adaptation. I liked the anime well enough for me to ask for more and thus made me want to read the VN. |
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Ol-Hybrius said: I won't be a VN reader this time, so maybe I'll enjoy it more, but still, I'd like to understand japanese to read the original material, especially Saya's route, since some seem to like it even more than Refrain. All you need to know about EX is: Sasami's route was touching, Kanata route was heartwarming and Saya's route was tragic. :3 |
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MagicFlier said: Ol-Hybrius said: I won't be a VN reader this time, so maybe I'll enjoy it more, but still, I'd like to understand japanese to read the original material, especially Saya's route, since some seem to like it even more than Refrain. All you need to know about EX is: Sasami's route was touching, Kanata route was heartwarming and Saya's route was tragic. :3 LB EX possible spoiler |
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MagicFlier said: Ol-Hybrius said: I won't be a VN reader this time, so maybe I'll enjoy it more, but still, I'd like to understand japanese to read the original material, especially Saya's route, since some seem to like it even more than Refrain. All you need to know about EX is: Sasami's route was touching, Kanata route was heartwarming and Saya's route was tragic. :3 Yay, I want more heartwarming Kanata. I feel like the heartwarming parts of LB are some of the best. |
| Who else spoiled Saya's ending for them while youtubing her song? |
egnaro315 said: Who else spoiled Saya's ending for them while youtubing her song? I spoiled it when looking for Little Busters H from Pixiv, read random parts here and there, I've seen the CGs since I finished LB, etc. There's even this one hilarious picture I found from pixiv. People who have spoiled bits of Saya's route will get it, lmao http://i.imgur.com/TBQiCVF.jpg |
egnaro315 said: Thats gotta be me!Who else spoiled Saya's ending for them while youtubing her song? Well I was just youtubing songs from LB and I found her CG so I listened to it. And yeah I was pretty much spoiled because of that. |
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Vladz0r said: egnaro315 said: Who else spoiled Saya's ending for them while youtubing her song? I spoiled it when looking for Little Busters H from Pixiv, read random parts here and there, I've seen the CGs since I finished LB, etc. There's even this one hilarious picture I found from pixiv. People who have spoiled bits of Saya's route will get it, lmao http://i.imgur.com/TBQiCVF.jpg Since I spoiled myself before, I thought I might as well read everything on wiki lol and now that picture looks great. xD |
| Visually, she is the most attractive female character in the show and it helps that her voice is nice and doesn't have mixed reactions from most viewers since it isn't squeaky or slow. Combine her character with an excellent story written by Maeda and you probably have something close to a masterpiece. |
Ol-Hybrius said: You are not alone. Even if I know a bit about her story, I still want to read it so badly. Shes even my avatar even though I know next to nothing about her.Sounds promising. Damn, I wish I could read japanese so badly. |
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-Riptide- said: MagicFlier said: Ol-Hybrius said: I won't be a VN reader this time, so maybe I'll enjoy it more, but still, I'd like to understand japanese to read the original material, especially Saya's route, since some seem to like it even more than Refrain. All you need to know about EX is: Sasami's route was touching, Kanata route was heartwarming and Saya's route was tragic. :3 LB EX possible spoiler I wonder... I don't want to say anything more than this since this isn't even an EX thread, but even if you spoiled yourself you should understand at this point that experiencing it first-hand is completely different than some blunt spoilers. It seems not many others read the EX routes, I even thought that Vlad would've already read it 100% too since I assumed you also had some basic japanese knowledge. I guess I was wrong. xDDD |
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| Well, if you want to get blatantly spoiled, there's a similar thread of this on EX sub-board and ask there. But there's one thing I can say on Saya's route: EDIT: Speaking of EX routes, another PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nUdt0jgVqE And as always, mai waifu is glorious. |
TennoujiDec 24, 2013 8:42 PM
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| Those routes look like they could actually be good o_O What Sasami facial expressions, much Futaki lighting, such Saya fighting angles, wow. |
Vladz0r said: Those routes look like they could actually be good o_O What Sasami facial expressions, much Futaki lighting, such Saya fighting angles, wow. Little Busters! EX anime adaptation proudly sponsored by Refrain budget. EX seems to have used more budget then Refrain actually did. :) |
DeathyZA said: Vladz0r said: Those routes look like they could actually be good o_O What Sasami facial expressions, much Futaki lighting, such Saya fighting angles, wow. Little Busters! EX anime adaptation proudly sponsored by Refrain budget. EX seems to have used more budget then Refrain actually did. :) Isn't it just b/c the PVs are showing the best animated scenes? I don't thnk the other parts will be as visually good, not until I watch to find out first at least. >> |
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MagicFlier said: Ol-Hybrius said: I won't be a VN reader this time, so maybe I'll enjoy it more, but still, I'd like to understand japanese to read the original material, especially Saya's route, since some seem to like it even more than Refrain. All you need to know about EX is: Sasami's route was touching, Kanata route was heartwarming and Saya's route was tragic. :3 Saya route = Tragic Writer = Jun Maeda Sureeeeee. Ok I kid but it's going to be near impossible for me to take it seriously now. |
hyperknees91 said: Saya route = Tragic Writer = Jun Maeda Sureeeeee. Ok I kid but it's going to be near impossible for me to take it seriously now. Do you not know about Tomoyo After? The reason itself for Saya even being in Little Busters creates a tragic story that feels forthcoming. Little Busters would've been tragic with Refrain if Maeda had any balls. And by that I mean if Maeda didn't already have the EX routes planned in advance. Well, JC Staff right now look like bitches with how they're copping out, and they make Maeda look like Urobuchi or a Shakespearean writer by comparison. |
Vladz0rDec 25, 2013 7:32 AM
| I was just joking really. Trust me I know Jun can create the ultimate tragedy if he feels like it. Did he actually write Tomoyo After? I thought he didn't write her character for some reason. Jun YOU GOT BALLS USE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN WOOOO Urobuchi might have balls but I don't feel like he knows how to make you emotionally invested to really care enough to get emotional about the situations he creates. Jun on the other hand is excellent at it, hence while I might bitch, I can't deny that he is good at what he does. |
hyperknees91Dec 25, 2013 8:16 AM
hyperknees91 said: Urobuchi might have balls but I don't feel like he knows how to make you emotionally invested to really care enough to get emotional about the situations he creates. Jun on the other hand is excellent at it, hence while I might bitch, I can't deny that he is good at what he does. This This This x1000000000000 Urobuchi can write these tragic situations to be so believable, but sadly, I've never felt attached to the characters before the events actually happen. I feel like you'd need to watch his shows twice in order to really feel for the characters, because you'd know what their fate is. Some of the few I've felt some emotion for was Kariya from Fate/Zero, and Ginoza from Psycho-Pass. I don't even feel anything for any of the Madoka characters, honestly. I think Urobuchi attracts an audience that wants characters who have constant depth, though. Some people would feel for Madoka, Fate/Zero, Psycho-Pass characters and not Clannad or Little Busters just because of Urobuchi's writing making characters feel really intelligent. I feel like LB at least feels genuine in Refrain. I think that the intelligence of some of his characters seems more unrealistic than even the cliche tendencies of Key's characters, honestly. A lot of his series still follow the basic Slice of Life Introduction/Comedy -> Drama formula pioneered by Key's based Maeda has, especially with a series like Madoka. Even Saya no Uta has a bit of that tone shift, though it's sort of like Berserk or Higurashi where you get a sneak peak at the horror to come, but then you're taken a huge step back to some more milder narration. I think Nitro+ pulled off Key's formula extremely effectively with Steins;Gate. They got you to like all the characters and created a story with some drama revolving around all of them, and some cliches were quickly subverted as characters became a fair bit more than the gags and archetypes that define them in the beginning. Urobuchi's strength, I think, is that he can quickly set up a genuine and believable environment so that he can create some believable and powerful tragic events without having to put you through a ton of slice of life. Maeda sort of drowns you in SoL for a while by comparison, and the people who can't get through it will never get to the drama. This might be a mediocre example because JC Staff's weak production has a lot to do with it, but... If you look at LB Refrain, most people dropped the first season or haven't continued past it, so we're left with an audience that primarily liked the Little Busters. Refrain's score is so high because its audience is mostly who liked the characters and will feel for the drama in this season. Urobuchi's shows tend to have some more intense events earlier on, and people don't usually just drop them, so I think his audience is less isolated, but in the end, I don't think he's achieved an emotional peak on the level of consistency as After Story or Refrain (let's assume the VN impact here, because the anime doesn't have the merits to prove its consistency.) Maeda's stuff appeals to a lot of people. I really feel like if Angel Beats would be remade with fully fleshed out characters, it would be his greatest work overall because of how many people would be pleased by it. The school settings in Little Busters and Clannad limit the audience to some degree. The school setting is something familiar that attracts people, but moe style in general proves to reach a larger audience than moe in a school setting. Oh yeah, I think Ryukishi is also pretty good at Key's formula. As Mr. Krabbs always says "The customer's always right!" and "It's all the formula." |
Vladz0rDec 25, 2013 8:10 AM
| Indeed. Urobuchi is trying to create the amazing balance that Miura has created with Berserk (complex mature characters with emotional investment). But can't really nail the emotional investment side. Like you said with Madoka, this was done very poorly so only a shipper could really give two craps about any of the characters. Don't get me wrong, I like how they were handled to a degree and the show was still superb. But I can't say I really ever was emotionally pained by anything that went on in it. Shouldn't I feel distressed to see Sayaka act in the way she did? I mean I certainly felt that way with Griffith in Berserk but it never happened in Madoka. The problem with Madoka and why it failed to create emotional investment is because all he did was focus on plot details, character details, and then the setting itself. All well in good, but we never got to spend enough time with any of the characters to give a crap. Unfortunately since he was spending his time doing those other 3 things, in order to keep the pacing going he had no choice but to sacrifice that. So you get an interesting, if uninvolving story as an end result. Hence why the final episode was supremely weak for me. It acted like I should care, but I found it impossible to. Angel beats was an utter mess. The only effective character was Otonashi because we spent enough time with him, so it's no wonder that his past was the best episode in the entire series (and quite honestly, you could just watch his past as a short side story and it would be just effective as the actual series itself). Other than that the series was good for comedy and animation. Good but that's only going to impress on a very basic level. Steins;Gate is basically a complete replica of the jun maeda formula so its no wonder its effective. Ryukishi...well I haven't read the VN's so I don't want to judge but it seems like its the same case. Higurashi definitely spent enough time with its characters to make you care about them at the very least. As for Fate/Zero it was hard to care about anyone but Kariya and Rider (waver velvet also developed a nice amount). The problem with that show is very simple. Too many characters for a 25 episode anime. I know the point of the show was to give a situation and show how multiple characters all look at the situation in different ways, but it still feels highly flawed in its approach. This is why Refrain is a masterpiece. Kyousuke, Kengo, Riki and Masato all look at the situation differently. And the reason we care enough to give a crap about what their opinions are about it is because of all the prior time we spent with them. I mean I guess having a random stranger come down and present an interesting theory to you is all well in good, but compared to a friend you've known for years who presents the same theory. It should be obvious who you're going to want to pay more attention to. |
hyperknees91Dec 25, 2013 8:36 AM
| Ordered me some Angel Beats and clannad Wall Scroll 32x24 inches. http://www.amazon.com/Coocool%C2%AE-Lifelike-Inspired-support-Customization/dp/B00DJ1ZOTO/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_3_47?ie=UTF8&qid=1387985581&sr=8-47&keywords=Angel+Beats http://www.amazon.com/Coocool%C2%AE-Lifelike-Inspired-CLANNAD-Customization/dp/B00CRWJQ1S/ref=sr_sp-btf_title_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1387986329&sr=8-14&keywords=Clannad+Wall+scroll Now looking for nice Rewrite and Little busters Wall Scrolls to go with my collection of Key Stuffz. |
| since no one has said it yet, merry christmas! |
| この世界には。。。秘密がある |
sanata50lbsb said: since no one has said it yet, merry christmas! Yea Merry Christmas! Sister ordered me those 2 Wall scrolls for xmas this year, cant wait until it arrives! |
| @hyperknees That's pretty much exactly how I feel about those works. Sadly, Refrain is cut quite a bit short when it comes to caring for each of the main 5 in the anime e.e >I mean I guess having a random stranger come down and present an interesting theory to you is all well in good, but compared to a friend you've known for years who presents the same theory. It should be obvious who you're going to want to pay more attention to. Pretty much this. It's why the drama in Little Busters feels genuine in the VN, but there's not really enough time to feel the same way. Seeing all of Riki's friends in first person when they're more of the driving force of the story than Riki himself a lot of the time just works a lot better. The anime can't quite immerse the audience in its story, though I blame a lot of this on budget, repetitive/boring narration from Riki, and some arcs that lack the buildup. It's easier to get immersed in Clannad's perspectives. And Berserk's storytelling has me feeling for Griffith and even the Band of the Hawk come the Eclipse more than I've felt in anything in Fate/Zero, Psycho-Pass, Gargantia, Madoka, and Saya no Uta combined. His tragic stories feel like emotional impact is never his intention, though sometimes it gets people anyway. Pulling off the visuals in the scene to yield emotions is definitely not a strong point. Key's sort of "cry on cue" scenes come to mind, and the Butcher doesn't have them, even when they honesty could feel deserved if they were added to his works, but everything is stylized or subtle or whatever. |
Vladz0rDec 25, 2013 12:06 PM
| Merry Christmas vn readers~ |
Vladz0r said: @hyperknees That's pretty much exactly how I feel about those works. Sadly, Refrain is cut quite a bit short when it comes to caring for each of the main 5 in the anime e.e >I mean I guess having a random stranger come down and present an interesting theory to you is all well in good, but compared to a friend you've known for years who presents the same theory. It should be obvious who you're going to want to pay more attention to. Pretty much this. It's why the drama in Little Busters feels genuine in the VN, but there's not really enough time to feel the same way. Seeing all of Riki's friends in first person when they're more of the driving force of the story than Riki himself a lot of the time just works a lot better. The anime can't quite immerse the audience in its story, though I blame a lot of this on budget, repetitive/boring narration from Riki, and some arcs that lack the buildup. It's easier to get immersed in Clannad's perspectives. And Berserk's storytelling has me feeling for Griffith and even the Band of the Hawk come the Eclipse more than I've felt in anything in Fate/Zero, Psycho-Pass, Gargantia, Madoka, and Saya no Uta combined. His tragic stories feel like emotional impact is never his intention, though sometimes it gets people anyway. Pulling off the visuals in the scene to yield emotions is definitely not a strong point. Key's sort of "cry on cue" scenes come to mind, and the Butcher doesn't have them, even when they honesty could feel deserved if they were added to his works, but everything is stylized or subtle or whatever. Too much style is just as ineffective of having too much emotion (anohana). You gotta do it at the right times and at the right pace. Hence why jun maeda is a genius. And yes the Eclipse is the most emotionally shocking scene I've ever experienced in my anime/manga career. |
Ol-Hybrius said: I've re-watched the first half of season 1 at the moment and well, besides art/animation, it's not that bad when I don't compare it too much to the original material. I didn't remember Kengo being kind of silly silly from the beginning (not as much as episodes post-25, but still). Komari and Mio's arc were correctly done in my opinion and I teared up at the end of Mio's. As for the comedy part, I think it wasn't necessary to adapt the unknown lifeform, but, oh well, it mix up quite well with the kimodameshi. The episode about Kud looking for a roommate could have been removed also. Anyway, my main complains would be about, as I said, the art/animation and the lack of core-team moments. Komari is recruited far too soon, I would have love to see more moments between the childhood friends doing silly stuffs together before going to look for members. It's more enjoyable than Air and even Clannad first season in my opinion, but I'm not a fond of Clannad to begin with. i agree with you, LB's first season was better than Clannad's |
| この世界には。。。秘密がある |
| @hyperbro My favorite thing about Refrain (in the VN) is how subtle the bro arcs endings are. They don't have Masato breaking down, and Kengo's breakdown in his arc is pretty subtle compared to the anime. It isn't until the farewells where we finally get a lot of emotional impact. There are a bunch of other lines that are emotional on a reread though, since you'll know about the Secret and whatnot, and some small events feel more heartbreaking like Masato saying "I'll stick with you to the end." and stuff. Idk, Clannad s1 would feel like a drag to rewatch. I think the parts aside from Fuko and Kotomi's arcs are enjoyable on a rewatch, but I'm kind of sick of those two individually. Those arcs really don't pack enough depth for me and aren't really thought-provoking, even though I think they have some pretty great emotional moments. Well, I'm rewatching it with my mom and we're up to episode 9 now. I feel the whole ride that Riki goes through, but it doesn't feel like anything amazing in this show. Kurugaya's arc actually seemed really good on a rewatch. The directing and animation would've been awesome to have throughout the entire show. It makes me feel like Little Busters could've been immersive and enjoyable if there was more budget, because I was more engaged watching Kurugaya's episodes for like the 4th time than I have been for eps 4-8. There's just so much screenplay direction and good timing of events that make it pretty explorative compared to these other eps. |
Vladz0rDec 25, 2013 2:18 PM
Exbo said: Merry Christmas vn readers~ Christmas is over for me~ :( |
| Welp, my mom finished Refrain episode 11. Seems like AnoHana was more sad, lmao, but she still teared up for Kengo and Kyousuke. I think if you think of loved ones who have died, AnoHana can be pretty sad if you get into the characters' shoes, but welp. My mom's not super smart or attentive or great at reading, but she caught a lot of the hints early on. She caught onto those scenes with Kyousuke's looks of sympathy towards Riki, and from episode 2 of Refrain, she theorized that all the LBs had died. She even understood that episode 10 was about Kyousuke trying to stop the bus from exploding. It seems blatant to most people anyway, though ;3 Well, I rewatched the whole thing and didn't tear up. I don't feel like this series carried a great emotional impact through its scenes. Part of it was because I have already seen them before, part of it is I still don't really like how a few were done, and there's the fact that the emotional scenes in Little Busters are far and few between in the 2nd season, honestly. In my mom's case, she's sort of like "The situation they're in is so sad." I don't think it's quite as genuine and emotional because it didn't pack a whole ton of powerful scenes, but the VN and the anime both have a similar amount. It might be because it's really dialogue heavy, though. The dialogue is what gets me when I reread Little Busters moreso than the scenes themselves. It feels like a pretty psychological experience and becomes something easy to relate to. I think Clannad would've been a lot more sad for her for its simplicity. There's no misunderstanding in a lot of the family themes, but I think it might be hard to feel emotion for when Riki recruits Masato and we get the nice CGs of him relaxing after the fight. (Though I cry everytiem ;-;) Well, it's Christmas, so maybe I'll rewatch Kanon now ;D I only recently found out that Maeda wasn't quite as involved in Kanon as I thought, and I know a few people who like it for that reason. I want to examine it closer this time around and see who wrote what. |
Vladz0rDec 25, 2013 3:49 PM
| Who is her favorite character from the show? Shame my parents don't watch anime. They watch drama though. |
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Vladz0r said: Well, it's Christmas, so maybe I'll rewatch Kanon now ;D I only recently found out that Maeda wasn't quite as involved in Kanon as I thought, and I know a few people who like it for that reason. I want to examine it closer this time around and see who wrote what. Ironically, the best routes in that anime for me was written by Maeda xD |
Ol-Hybrius said: egnaro315 said: Vladz0r said: Well, it's Christmas, so maybe I'll rewatch Kanon now ;D I only recently found out that Maeda wasn't quite as involved in Kanon as I thought, and I know a few people who like it for that reason. I want to examine it closer this time around and see who wrote what. Ironically, the best routes in that anime for me was written by Maeda xD Didn't he write all of them ? I thought so. Then whose are his ? |
Ol-Hybrius said: egnaro315 said: Ol-Hybrius said: egnaro315 said: Vladz0r said: Well, it's Christmas, so maybe I'll rewatch Kanon now ;D I only recently found out that Maeda wasn't quite as involved in Kanon as I thought, and I know a few people who like it for that reason. I want to examine it closer this time around and see who wrote what. Ironically, the best routes in that anime for me was written by Maeda xD Didn't he write all of them ? I thought so. Then whose are his ? Is it a spoil ? xD Makoto > Mai > Ayu > Shiori > Nayuki for me. Well Vlad wanted to examine it and see who wrote what so I didn't want to spoil it for him lol. |
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